Fervent Church of Colorado Springs hosted the Turning Point USA (TPUSA) Saving America Tour last night. The Saving America Tour supports TPUSA Faith, a new church-focused branch of TPUSA, the conservative activist group for students and diaper lovers.
For nearly two hours, devout church pastor Garret Graupner and TPUSA founder Charlie Kirk discussed a range of issues popular with evangelical conservatives, but focused specifically on issues related to LGBTQ people. – and more particularly to transgender people.
“Churches are finally starting to rise up in El Paso County, and we’re seeing some really good results,” said Graupner, who also announced the formation of a TPUSA Faith chapter in Colorado Springs. “We’re done with people calling themselves conservatives and… they’re not really conservative. I think there is a hill on which we can die as Christians. Yes, I am against gun control. Yes, I am against sanctuary cities. Yes, I am against open borders, but there are three that I stand on, that I will fight to the death for. It’s the unborn, and you know about our ungodly, crazy abortion bill that just passed. [Critical race theory], intersectionality, how many races are there in the world? There is a race, it’s called the human race. There’s the LBGBQXYGL, whatever it is, the gender fluidity, the sexual identity stuff. I mean, when you got on the cover of Newsweek a man who is Woman of the Year, something is seriously wrong.
Graupner is the FEC National Chaplain and Pikes Peak Pillar of Faith Pastor for the conservative activist group FEC United. The group’s founder, Douglas County podcast host Joe Oltmann, claimed that public school teachers are “recruiting kids to be gay” and that LGBTQ teachers should be “dragged behind a car until ‘until their body parts fall off’.
Kirk, who was recently banned from Twitter for harassing United States Deputy Health Secretary Rachel Levine, a transgender woman, claimed that there is a comparison between transgender issues and abortion issues.
“Gender issues and pro-life issues are separate, but you can put them in the same bucket, which is sort of non-negotiable for the church, honestly,” Kirk said. “Gender issues are so simple, it’s so easy. I’ve been upfront about it for years, unapologetically – just because I don’t care, honestly. What’s so interesting is the men’s thing, the women’s thing, it’s a 95, 97% problem, it really is. Most people believe that there are men and women, there really is. They believe men can’t get pregnant, even though Apple thinks they can. Here’s the thing, 97% of people agree with what I just said, but 99% of people are afraid to comment on it. This is the most interesting thing. More people are empowered to speak out on the pro-life issue – praise God by the way because that wasn’t the case 10 years ago – we have bolder and more condemned pro-life activists than I know ‘ve never seen. People are more comfortable bringing this up, but stuff like, ‘Wow, I don’t want to get cancelled. The alphabet mafia or whatever is gonna come after me. “
Both Graupner and Kirk have criticized churches for not taking a stronger stance against LGBTQ people.
“How do some of these guys call themselves pastors? asked Graupner, who in 2007, told faith-based outlet Assist News on his personal history as a gun and drug trafficker in California in the 90s.
“When I was arrested, they were offering me a jail term,” Graupner told Assist News. “I ran out and moved into the mountains and like I said I was moving a lot of guns at the time. They started finding my guns at different crime scenes and were able to track them down. the guns to me. So I had to hide in the mountains. The police came by my mother’s house every day, looking for me and kind of harassing the family. So one day I snuck into a hospital where my mom was working, and when she saw me, she started crying and God got down and touched my heart, she said, ‘I can’t take it anymore. I don’t want to see you. Don’t come near us until you’re ready to clean up your life. I said, ‘What do you want me to do?’ and she said, “I want you to go to rehab,” so I agreed to do that. My dad picked me up and I went to rehab, and there I gave up my life. to the Lord crying and crying for about two hours.After that the Lord miraculously delivered me from drugs and alcohol.
Graupner and Kirk suggested that churches need to become more involved in politics and government.
“One of the scriptures that is used a lot by the churches – I think wrongly – is Romans 13“, Kirk said. “You’ve probably all heard it and heard it cited a lot as a reason that you have to submit to the government. So it says in Romans 13 – I’m paraphrasing – but basically you have to submit to those who hold authority and basically they are there for your good. Think about it, who is actually in authority here in America? We are. The people are in authority, so if you read Romans 13 through a constitutional lens, through the lens that our editors and our founders gave us is that the governor of Colorado has to submit to us, it’s not that we submit to him, that’s a whole different thing.
Graupner echoed popular sentiments in the sovereign citizen movement.
“What I think citizens, as well as pastors, don’t realize is – you hear the quote, ‘Give unto Caesar what’s Caesar’s’ – what they don’t realize is that we are Caesar in this country,” he said. noted. “It’s ‘We the people,’ right? We’re petty kings. We’re sovereign, okay? It’s not unelected officials anywhere, but it’s us in as a people who defend our rights.
He also suggested that churches should stop working with politicians who support progressive policies. “I think one problem is that we have a lot of pastors who were sitting at the table that Jesus would knock down,” Graupner said. “Being on committees with [Governor Jared] Polis and all the rest. This guy is a deviant. He forced [critical race theory] in schools, he enforced gender fluidity and gender identity in schools, and here we have pastors sitting at the table with this guy, whom Jesus would overthrow.
At a Feb. 15 caucus training hosted by FEC United at Fervent Church, attendees slammed Rep. Tim Geitner (R-Monument) for backing a bill that would include LGBTQ perspectives in education classes. Colorado social studies. Geitner announced on February 24 that he would not run for office in the 20th House District.
Kirk argued that churches should be more active in pushing for LGBTQ rights. “If they’re sitting there accepting something that’s unbiblical, I have no patience for it,” he said. “That happens often, doesn’t it?” Where a lot of churches will say, ‘Look, in the spirit of trying to build bridges, okay, I’m going to be on this committee.’ Well, what does this committee represent? What are you trying to advance? I will talk to anyone at any time, and we should be open to that, but at the same time, then there will be a test of you. You have to have the courage when, all of a sudden, [someone] says, ‘Hey, should we have non-binary bathrooms?’ that you, as pastor or Christian on this committee, are willing to sacrifice whatever goodwill you may have contributed [by saying] “Actually no, I think men are men and women are women and I don’t think we should have non-binary bathrooms in the state of Colorado.”
Kirk claimed that there are three categories of churches – “courageous” churches, such as devout, “cowardly” churches that don’t want to stir up controversy, and “complicit” churches, which support and affirm LGBTQ people in their congregation. Kirk offered the “loose” churches the support of TPUSA.
“We can give you the reasons why this country was founded on Christian biblical principles,” Kirk said. “Founded by Christians, 55 of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were Bible-true Christians and regular churchgoers. We can tell you that the Protestant Reformation led to the basic teachings of Western civilization which then led to [George] Whitfield and [Jonathan] Edwards and Jonathan Mayhew being the black-robed regiment that spurred the struggle for freedom in America. We can give you all of that. The best training available. It’s fixable. What is not so easily fixable is the crisis in America.
During the question and answer portion of the evening, Kirk raged against Lia Thomas, University of Pennsylvania swimmerconstantly naming her and concluding that the other swimmers’ fathers should have stood up and forcibly prevented Thomas from participating.
“You have to step in,” Kirk told the crowd.
Kirk also discussed race-related issues. “I hate talking about race,” he said. It doesn’t motivate me and it shouldn’t motivate you. I believe we are all created in the image of God. I don’t really care about the color of your skin. I think this whole conversation is so destructive, so divisive, and so unbiblical.
TPUSA has be subject to scrutiny in the past for racismand recently Ben Lorber, research associate at social justice think tank Political Research Associates, tweeted that members of a TPUSA high school organization attended 76Fest in Phoenix, Arizona, an event organized by white nationalists.
Kirk announced he would be speaking at the University of Colorado at Boulder on April 12, and a school spokesperson confirmed that the TPUSA chapter plans to host the event.